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美中两国的士兵手册

1楼 2007-08-27 17:27:56
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美国士兵守则

  1、 You are not a superman.你不是超人。(不要无谓的冒险、不要做傻事)

  2. If it''s stupid but works,it isn''t stupid.如果一个蠢方法有效,那它就不是一个蠢方法。

  3.Don''t look conspicuous - it draws fire. (This is why aircraft carriersare called "Bomb Magnets".)不要太显眼,因为那会引来对方火力攻击。(这就是航母被称为"炸弹磁铁"的原因。)

  4. Never share a foxhole with anyone braver than you are.别和比你勇敢的战友躲在同一个散兵坑里。

  5. Never forget that the lowest bidder made your weapon.别忘了你手上的武器是由最低价的承包商得标制造的。

  6. If your attack is going really well,it''s an ambush.如果你的攻击进行得很顺利,那一定是你中了圈套。

  7. All five-second grenade fuses will burn down in three seconds.所有五秒的手榴弹引线都会在三秒内烧完。

  8. Try to look unimportant because bad guys may be low on ammo.尽量显得是一个无关紧要的人,因为敌人可能弹药不够了。(他会先打最重要的人)

  9. If you are forward of your position,the artillary will fall short.每当你要攻击前进时,炮兵往往也快要用完了炮弹。

  10. The enemy diversion you are ignoring is the main attack.那支你以为是敌军疑兵而不加注意的部队恰恰就是敌人的攻击主力。

  11. The important things are always simple.重要的事总是简单的。

  12. The simple things are always hard.简单的事总是难作到。

  13. The easy way is always mined.好走的路总是已被敌军布上了地雷。

  14. If you are short of everything except enemy. You are in combat.如果你除了敌人不缺,其它什么都缺,那你往往就要面临作战了。

  15. Incoming fire has the right of way.飞来的子弹有优先通行权。(挡它的道你就要倒大楣!)

  16. If the enemy is in range, SO ARE YOU!!!如果敌人正在你的射程内,别忘了你也在他的射程内。

  17. No combat ready unit has ever passed inspections.从没有一支完成战备的单位能通过校阅。

  18. Things that must be together to work usually can''t be shippedtogether.必须要装配在一起才能发挥效力的武器装备通常不会一起运来。

  19. Radio''s will fail as soon as you need fire support desperately.无线电通讯会有可能在你急需火力支援时失灵。

  20. Anything you do can get you shot - including doing nothing.你作的任何事都可能挨枪子儿 -- 包括你什么都不做。

  21. Tracers work both ways.曳光弹可以帮你找到敌踪;但也会让敌人找到你。

  22. The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incomingfriendly fire.唯一比敌人火力还精确的是友军打过来的炮火。(误射)

  23. Make it tough for the enemy to get in and you can''t get out.当你防守严密到敌人攻不进来时,那往往你自己也打出不去。

  24. If you take more than your fair share of objectives, you will have morethan your fair share of objectives to take.如果你多报战功,那下次你会被给予超过你能力的目标让你去打。(自讨苦吃)

  25. When both sides are convinced that they are about to lose, they are bothright.当两军都觉得自己快输时,那他们可能都是对的。

  26. Professional soldiers are predictable but the world is full of amateurs.专业士兵的行为是你能预测的,可惜战场上业余的士兵占多数,因此敌人的行为大部分是你所无法预测的。

  
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  中国人民解放军士兵守则

  1,热爱中国共产党,热爱社会主义祖国,热爱中国人民解放军,全心全意为人民服务.

  2,执行党的路线,方针,政策,遵守国家的法律,法规.

  3,执行军队的条令,条例和规章制度,服从命令,听从指挥.

  4,努力学习军事,政治,科学文化,苦练杀敌本领,爱护武器装备,保守军事秘密.

  5,发扬优良传统,英勇战斗,不怕牺牲,保卫社会主义祖国,保卫人民的和平劳动,在任何情况下决不背叛祖国,叛离军队.


就这样对比看看,网友们觉得我们中国的怎么样````



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3楼 2007-08-28 11:47:36
如果是真的的话,我无语!
你爱士兵尊重士兵,尊重他们的生命,诚实的对待他们。他们才能尊重你,尊重你的生命,诚实的对待你和战争!
4楼 2007-08-28 11:49:59
对生命的价值观不同,对人的态度就不同。
5楼 2007-08-28 11:53:14
美国的很长,但很实在,我相信看过2遍,很多人都能背下来了,并且不容易忘记。
中国的简短,但我相信很少有人会认真去读,除了要做报告的领导外,并且基本没人会去想这种不实在的东西。



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6楼 2007-08-28 11:59:01
人海战术的需要



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7楼 2007-08-28 12:43:56
中国的不象是对人说的,象是对工具说的!
8楼 2007-08-28 12:56:29
美军军规有这么多条吗?



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9楼 2007-08-28 12:58:46
  【回复永远的支柱】:

  美国的很长,但很实在,我相信看过2遍,很多人都能背下来了,并且不容易忘记。

  中国的简短,但我相信很少有人会认真去读,除了要做报告的领导外,并且基本没人会去想这种不实在的东西。


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10楼 2007-08-28 12:59:00
少1点口号 多点实际的东西,军队的高级轿车多的是,单兵作战装备差得要死!
11楼 2007-08-28 12:59:46
  【回复Dream8023】:

  好帖子!中国古时还讲“爱兵如子”呢。
12楼 2007-08-28 13:01:05
【回复 黑色领带 】:
少1点口号 多点实际的东西,军队的高级轿车多的是,单兵作战装备差得要死!
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要装备干什么,想当初我们都是用人去踩地雷排雷的,你再智能的排雷设备有这个效率高吗?



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悲喜总无泪,是人间白发,剑胆成灰。
13楼 2007-08-28 13:02:13
适合粪娃
14楼 2007-08-28 13:03:53
【回复 Dream8023 】:假的,肯定是假的!
美国佬虐囚、杀印地安人、杀伊拉克人、杀阿富汗人、杀南斯拉夫人、杀塞尔维亚人、杀日本人、杀德国人、杀意大利人、还杀过英国人、杀中国人、杀朝鲜人、杀越南人,把黑人当奴隶,让外国人摁手指头印才能进美国,他们有那么好,对他们的士兵?
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15楼 2007-08-28 13:39:00
哈哈他们士兵是人 我们的是畜生



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我身体是不自~由的,但我的心是飞翔的 !
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16楼 2007-08-28 14:07:52
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古今之成大事业、大学问者,罔不经过三种境界:“昨夜西风凋碧树,独上高楼,望尽天涯路。”此第一境界也。“衣带渐宽终不悔,为伊消得人憔悴。”此第二境界也。“众里寻他千白度,回头蓦见,那人正在灯火阑珊处。”此第三境界也。
17楼 2007-08-28 14:18:58
【回复 蔫萝卜 】:
【回复 Dream8023 】:假的,肯定是假的!
美国佬虐囚、杀印地安人、杀伊拉克人、杀阿富汗人、杀南斯拉夫人、杀塞尔维亚人、杀日本人、杀德国人、杀意大利人、还杀过英国人、杀中国人、杀朝鲜人、杀越南人,把黑人当奴隶,让外国人摁手指头印才能进美国,他们有那么好,对他们的士兵?

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自古有道伐无道,殷商灭夏桀,周武灭商纣。。。
18楼 2007-08-28 15:30:22
【回复 Dream8023 】:
又见到这个扯淡的帖子了。那个所谓的美国“士兵手册”根本就是一则幽默,有人别有用心地拿来和解放军的官方入伍誓词比较。 下面是美军的入伍誓词,这才是和解放军的入伍誓词可以比较的 I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice。

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这样胡编乱造的垃圾帖子还在流传,无非就是想暗示美国是多么的人性化,中国又是多么的政治化。所谓美军的这些手册只是外国流行的墨菲定律,只是一些幽默短句而已!并非美军的真实守则,中国的也只是军人誓词,真正的美军誓词各个军种又不一样,顺便再附上美国陆军的誓词(也叫勇士精神):

I AM AN AMERICAN SOLDIER./ ]

I AM A WARRIOR AND A MEMBER OF A TEAM.

I SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES AND LIVE THE ARMY VALUES.

I WILL ALWAYS PLACE THE MISSION FIRST.

I WILL NEVER ACCEPT DEFEAT.

I WILL NEVER QUIT.

I WILL NEVER LEAVE A FALLEN COMRADE.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

I AM DISCIPLINED, PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY TOUGH, TRAINED AND

PROFICIENT IN MY WARRIOR TASKS AND DRILLS,

I ALWAYS MAINTAIN MY ARMS, MY EQUIPMENT AND MYSELF.

I AM AN EXPERT AND I AM A PROFESSIONAL.,STAND READY TO DEPLOY, ENGAGE AND DESTROY THE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN CLOSE COMBAT.

I AM A GUARDIAN OF FREEDOM AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE.

I AM AN AMERICAN SOLDIER。
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看到楼上众多“民主人士”还在那煞有介事,大发感叹,不知道应该说是弱智,还是发贱比较合适?
19楼 2007-08-28 15:32:03
【回复 Dream8023 】:
再来看看关于帖子里所谓美军守则的一些墨菲定律,帖子作者只是从里面节选了一些。有兴趣的话,自己翻译:


Murphy's Laws of Combat[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]


If the enemy is in range, so are you.

There is always a way.

The easy way is always mined.

The enemy invariably attacks on two occasions:

when you're ready for them.

when you're not ready for them.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Teamwork is essential, it gives them someone else to shoot at.

If you can't remember, then the claymore is pointed at you.

The enemy diversion you have been ignoring will be the main attack.

A "sucking chest wound" is nature's way of telling you to slow down.

If your attack is going well, you have walked into an ambush.

Never draw fire, it irritates everyone around you.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Never share a foxhole with anyone braver than yourself.

If you're short of everything but the enemy, you're in a combat zone.

When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy.

Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder.

Friendly fire - isn't.

Recoilless rifles - aren't.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Suppressive fires - won't.

You are not Superman; Marines and fighter pilots take note.

If it's stupid but it works, it isn't too stupid, now is it?

Try to look unimportant; the enemy may be low on ammo and not want to waste a bullet on you.

If at first you don't succeed, call in an airstrike.

If you are forward of your position, your artillery will fall short.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Never go to bed with anyone crazier than yourself.

No OPLAN ever survives initial contact.

There is no such thing as a perfect plan.

Five second fuses always burn three seconds.

There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole.

A retreating enemy is probably just falling back and regrouping.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

The important things are always simple; the simple are always hard.

Don't look conspicuous; it draws fire. For this reason, it is not at all uncommon for aircraft carriers to be known as bomb magnets.

Never draw fire; it irritates everyone around you.

If you are short of everything but the enemy, you are in the combat zone.

When you have secured the area, make sure the enemy knows it too.

Incoming fire has the right of way.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

No combat ready unit has ever passed inspection.

No inspection ready unit has ever passed combat.

The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire.

Things which must be shipped together as a set, aren't.

Things that must work together, can't be carried to the field that way.

Radios will fail as soon as you need fire support.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Anything you do can get you killed, including nothing.

Make it too tough for the enemy to get in, and you won't be able to get out.

Tracers work both ways.

If you take more than your fair share of objectives, you will get more than your fair share of objectives to take.

When both sides are convinced they will lose, they're both right.

Professional soldiers are predictable; the world is full of dangerous amateurs.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

The more a weapon costs, the farther you will have to send it away to be repaired.

Military Intelligence is a contradiction.

Fortify your front; you'll get your rear shot up.

Radar tends to fail at night and in bad weather, and especially during both.

Weather ain't neutral.

Air defense motto: shoot 'em down; sort 'em out on the ground.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Flies high, it dies; low and slow, it'll go.

The Cavalry doesn't always come to the rescue.

Napalm is an area support weapon.

Mines are equal opportunity weapons.

B-52s are the ultimate close support weapon.

Sniper's motto: reach out and touch someone.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Killing for peace is like screwing for virginity.

The one item you need is always in short supply.

Interchangeable parts aren't.

It's not the one with your name on it; it's the one addressed "to whom it may concern" you've got to think about.

When in doubt, empty your magazine.

The side with the simplest uniforms wins.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Combat will occur on the ground between two adjoining maps.

If the Platoon Sergeant can see you, so can the enemy.

Never stand when you can sit, never sit when you can lie down, never stay awake when you can sleep.

The most dangerous thing in the world is a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass.

Exceptions prove the rule, and destroy the battle plan.

Everything always works in your HQ, everything always fails in the Colonel's HQ.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

The enemy never watches until you make a mistake.

One enemy soldier is never enough, but two is entirely too many.

A clean (and dry) set of BDU's is a magnet for mud and rain.

The worse the weather, the more you are required to be out in it.

Whenever you have plenty of ammo, you never miss. Whenever you are low on ammo, you can't hit the broad side of a barn.

The complexity of a weapon is inversely proportional to the IQ of the weapon's operator.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Field experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

No matter which way you have to march, its always uphill.

If enough data is collected, a board of inquiry can prove anything.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.

Airstrikes always overshoot the target, artillery always falls short.

When reviewing the radio frequencies that you just wrote down, the most important ones are always illegible.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Those who hesitate under fire usually do not end up KIA or WIA.

The tough part about being an officer is that the troops don't know what they want, but they know for certain what they don't want.

To steal information from a person is called plagiarism. To steal information from the enemy is called gathering intelligence.

The weapon that usually jams when you need it the most is the M60.

The perfect officer for the job will transfer in the day after that billet is filled by someone else.

When you have sufficient supplies & ammo, the enemy takes 2 weeks to attack. When you are low on supplies & ammo the enemy decides to attack that night.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

The newest and least experienced soldier will usually win the Medal of Honor.

A Purple Heart just proves that were you smart enough to think of a plan, stupid enough to try it, and lucky enough to survive.

Murphy was a grunt.

Beer Math -- 2 beers times 37 men equals 49 cases.

Body count Math -- 3 guerrillas plus 1 probable plus 2 pigs equals 37 enemies killed in action.

The bursting radius of a hand grenade is always one foot greater than your jumping range.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

All-weather close air support doesn't work in bad weather.

The combat worth of a unit is inversely proportional to the smartness of its outfit and appearance.

The crucial round is a dud.

Every command which can be misunderstood, will be.

There is no such place as a convenient foxhole.

Don't ever be the first, don't ever be the last and don't ever volunteer to do anything.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

If your positions are firmly set and you are prepared to take the enemy assault on, he will bypass you.

If your ambush is properly set, the enemy won't walk into it.

If your flank march is going well, the enemy expects you to outflank him.

Density of fire increases proportionally to the curiousness of the target.

Odd objects attract fire - never lurk behind one.

The more stupid the leader is, the more important missions he is ordered to carry out.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

The self-importance of a superior is inversely proportional to his actual importance in your chain of command.

There is always a way, and it usually doesn't work.

Success occurs when no one is looking, failure occurs when the General is watching.

The enemy never monitors your radio frequency until you broadcast on an unsecured channel.

Whenever you drop your equipment in a fire-fight, your ammo and grenades always fall the farthest away, and your canteen always lands at your feet.

As soon as you are served hot chow in the field, it rains.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]

Never tell the Platoon Sergeant you have nothing to do.

The seriousness of a wound in a fire-fight is inversely proportional to the distance to any form of cover.

Walking point = sniper bait.

Your bivouac for the night is the spot where you got tired of marching that day.

If only one solution can be found for a field problem, then it is usually a stupid solution.

All or any of the above combined.[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]


这些东西,当做美国式幽默来看看,还是很不错的,多少也能学到一些东西。可非要把这忽悠成什么“美军士兵手册”,我看就免了吧!这种拙劣的谎言,估计又是那些精蝇或轮子编造出来的,一帮天生贱格的东西,真让人恶心!

以上是本人在铁血发过的帖子。
20楼 2007-08-28 15:36:57
【回复 miwang_023a 】:
【回复 Dream8023 】:
再来看看关于帖子里所谓美军守则的一些墨菲定律,帖子作者只是从里面节选了一些。有兴趣的话,自己翻译:


Murphy's Laws of Combat[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]


If the enemy is in range, so are you.

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请用中文写一遍,好吗?
21楼 2007-08-28 15:41:24
【回复 蔫萝卜 】:
【回复 miwang_023a 】:
【回复 Dream8023 】:
再来看看关于帖子里所谓美军守则的一些墨菲定律,帖子作者只是从里面节选了一些。有兴趣的话,自己翻译:


Murphy's Laws of Combat[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]


If the enemy is in

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你自己翻译吧,看你挂那头像,估计英语错不了....
22楼 2007-08-28 15:43:13
【回复 miwang_023a 】:
【回复 蔫萝卜 】:
【回复 miwang_023a 】:
【回复 Dream8023 】:
再来看看关于帖子里所谓美军守则的一些墨菲定律,帖子作者只是从里面节选了一些。有兴趣的话,自己翻译:


Murphy's Laws of Combat[ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]


If

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你自己翻译吧,看你挂那头像,估计英语错不了....




我只认识第一句,”我是一个美国兵,我来自老百姓“
23楼 2007-08-28 15:52:17
据说美军规定出现以下四种情况士兵可以投降,不知道是不是真的:
“一是没有子弹了,二是没有干粮了,三是联络中断了,四是突围不了了”。
24楼 2007-08-28 16:01:53
【回复 蔫萝卜 】:
据说美军规定出现以下四种情况士兵可以投降,不知道是不是真的:
“一是没有子弹了,二是没有干粮了,三是联络中断了,四是突围不了了”。

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你说的这4个我不清楚。看起来不象哦。
兵种,部队和任务不同,有的不允许,或其传统上,是不投降的,比如美国游骑兵。其入伍誓词就明确表明,“在游骑兵的字典里没有投降二字”,甚至“在不利的环境下我决不给我的祖国添麻烦。”
当然了,如果换做这是我们解放军的誓词,“民主人士”又该说,看,中国就会喊口号,中国多么不人道,多么不爱惜军人生命了!
25楼 2007-08-28 16:22:14
流言止于智者。



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哪里有水平好一点的精英,知道的朋友请给个地址。
26楼 2007-08-28 17:32:47
网络真好
我从网上查了下 楼主说的是真的 
大家可以用搜索引擎搜索美国士兵手册和楼主说的相同
的确谣言和封锁在这个信息时代已经是拙劣的手段了
27楼 2007-08-28 17:33:54
【回复 miwang_023a 】:
【回复 蔫萝卜 】:
据说美军规定出现以下四种情况士兵可以投降,不知道是不是真的:
“一是没有子弹了,二是没有干粮了,三是联络中断了,四是突围不了了”。
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你说的这4个我不清楚。看起来不象哦。
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可是在战争中确有安排好的投降事件,比如朝鲜战争云山一战,一名美军医生主动留下和伤员一起投降,说明美军中是允许投降的。
在敦克尔克大撤退中,也有类似案例,多个医生和数百伤兵留下投降德军。
28楼 2007-08-28 17:36:17
我军确实不让士兵投降,不过这是东方军队的共同特点,因为我们对荣誉看的很重,日本士兵也是不让投降的。但从人性化的角度分析,极端的情况下,确实应该允许投降。